Wanting to get rid of a big, old airframe?

Hey, clubbies!

I've been so impressed with the long flight times & great sound of Randy's
1/4 scale Cub when I teach on Wednesday nights that I decided I wanted to
get into gasoline power, too! However, I'm very budget-limited (four kids
at home, sole wage-earner) so I picked up a used Ryobi 31cc weed-eater I am
pillaging the motor out of, and have a passel of JR DS821 servos and some
spare radio gear & batteries ready to dump into a suitable airframe.

My goal is to build a "utility airplane" for club shows and Training Night:
candy drop, docile, good trainer, very slow landing, tow banners, learn
about smoke systems, and practice some light-weight aerotowing with
sailplanes. Unlimited vertical, hovering, or blisteringly fast low-speed
passes NOT on the menu! Ideally, big, slow, not necessarily aerobatic, but
able to handle heavier wing-loadings with ease.

Before I drop the cash on a kit -- and realistically, I'm not that great a
builder, so I'm not ready to try to build a brand-new 12-foot "Builder's
Kit" Telemaster yet! -- I was wondering if any club members might be able to
help out. Do you have a large, beat-up, slow-flying airframe you're not
flying anymore -- like, perhaps that you've moved the electronics & motor to
another airframe -- that might be suitable for the job that you're willing
to part with cheap or free to a good home? I've pieced together several
crashed airframes before, so I'm not afraid of torn covering, shattered
balsa, replacing fuel-soaked wood, and fabricating new firewalls.

Reply on the board, mailing list, or via email at , or
via phone at USA 1(801)999-8390. Thanks in advance if you can help get this
"off the ground"!

Wanting to get rid of a big, old airframe?

Well not to put a wet blanket on what appears to be an admirable plan with a desire to keep costs down, but I suggest that you reconsider your servo choice for such a project as those 821's are not recommended for gassers let alone something that size. From the Horizon website:

"The DS821 servo is a powerful, accurate sport digital servo recommended for RC airplane applications up to 1.20-size. For helicopters, the DS821 operates best with 30-size glow models, and up to 50-size electric. Loads and vibration in larger models may cause premature failure of the servo resulting in damage or injury to property and persons."
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=JRPS821

Gary Z.

Zeeb

Wanting to get rid of a big, old airframe?

Not being able to use the DS821 servos is a speed bump, not a show-stopper.
Thanks for the reminder about the weak output shafts on those servos. I'm
certain I can find an affordable alternative.

When I first got into this hobby, I wanted to "build me a plane with a
weed-eater motor on the front". Well, seven years later I finally feel
confident enough to start experimenting :) Will require quite a bit of
bench-time I'm sure, and careful attention to detail -- and redundancy -- to
avoid in-flight failures.

Wanting to get rid of a big, old airframe?

However...  If you are placing these servos in a large and very slow or docile airplane then they will be just fine!

My 25% Hangar 9 Piper J3 Cub PNP has 6 of these servos in it and I have not had one servo failure yet on this plane and it has 270 flights on it now. These are the servos that came preinstalled in this plane.

I think they will be ok as long as the speed of the plane does not exceed around 60 mph.

I am not trying to step on toes. Just was thinking it should be ok with the type of plane being considered for them.

Randy H.

Wanting to get rid of a big, old airframe?

Matt,

CH Ignitions has an ignition for that motor that probably does not require any machining.

They might have more info on what is needed to convert the engine for aircraft use... some of these needed to have a thrust bearing installed.

Scroll down to... Weed Trimmer Conversions

Here is the link...

http://www.ch-ignitions.com/cat.html

Randy H.

Wanting to get rid of a big, old airframe?

Matt,

If you need a little machine work done let me know. I have access to a full shop of equipment.

John K

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Wanting to get rid of a big, old airframe?

Matt, Although I don't have exactly what you're after, I do have a set of plans for a Nosen Citabria. WS is 102" I think. With a bit of tweaking, it could be made into a docile trainer. I also have a bunch of lite ply. Yea, yea. You don't want to build it from scratch...geez
Rick marshall

Wanting to get rid of a big, old airframe?

Matt,

I have a "Flybaby" kit. I think that it is a 1/4 scale, I'm not sure. I think the span is 6-7 feet. I will check on it tonight. It is a kit that i have started, but it is all there. Let me know if this is what you are after. It is similar to Tom"s "Flybaby" only not as big.

Steve Wilson

>>> "Matthew P. Barnson" 7/26/2010 5:17 PM >>>
Hey, clubbies!

I've been so impressed with the long flight times & great sound of Randy's 1/4 scale Cub when I teach on Wednesday nights that I decided I wanted to get into gasoline power, too! However, I'm very budget-limited (four kids at home, sole wage-earner) so I picked up a used Ryobi 31cc weed-eater I am pillaging the motor out of, and have a passel of JR DS821 servos and some spare radio gear & batteries ready to dump into a suitable airframe.

My goal is to build a "utility airplane" for club shows and Training Night: candy drop, docile, good trainer, very slow landing, tow banners, learn about smoke systems, and practice some light-weight aerotowing with sailplanes. Unlimited vertical, hovering, or blisteringly fast low-speed passes NOT on the menu! Ideally, big, slow, not necessarily aerobatic, but able to handle heavier wing-loadings with ease.

Before I drop the cash on a kit -- and realistically, I'm not that great a builder, so I'm not ready to try to build a brand-new 12-foot "Builder's Kit" Telemaster yet! -- I was wondering if any club members might be able to help out. Do you have a large, beat-up, slow-flying airframe you're not flying anymore -- like, perhaps that you've moved the electronics & motor to another airframe -- that might be suitable for the job that you're willing to part with cheap or free to a good home? I've pieced together several crashed airframes before, so I'm not afraid of torn covering, shattered balsa, replacing fuel-soaked wood, and fabricating new firewalls.

Reply on the board, mailing list, or via email at , or via phone at USA 1(801)999-8390. Thanks in advance if you can help get this "off the ground"!

Wanting to get rid of a big, old airframe?

Here is a video to give you an idea of the SPAD gasser that I suggested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbCT0Fa9j1E

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